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me a -- wait. what was the question? one more quickly. do we have time? you lost your gd mind. the privacy rights of this poor woman. i'll see you next week. good morning. happy new day to you. i am christi paul. >> i am victor blackwell. good to be with you. the president says it was a great day for america when he fired fbi director james comey, but for the fbi, it was another red flag. >> we now learned the bureau opened an investigation into whether his actions were a threat to national security. as first reported by "new york times," this counter intelligence probe was happening simultaneously with the obstruction of justice investigation. >> the president is defending himself in several tweets saying the probe started with no reason and no proof.
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he called comey a crooked cop. >> the investigation was eventually handed to robert mueller, of course. not clear what happened after that. joining us to help explain, cnn reporter erica orton. >> good morning. the counter intelligence probe was taken over by robert mueller after his investigation began, and the counterintelligence probe puts a finer point on the mueller investigation, which has of course been investigating whether the trump campaign colluded with russia, and the counterintelligence investigation was specifically into whether trump had been or was acting on behalf of the russian government. we may never know what became of this counterintelligence probe. it is possible when mueller writes his report, when the mueller team issues their report that there may be some information from that
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investigation or some conclusions drawn from that inquiry in the written report. >> all right. appreciate it so much. thank you. >> with us to discuss the case and what it means for the white house and washington, cnn security analyst samantha vinograd, former adviser to president obama's national security adviser, and cnn intelligence and security analyst robert bear. former cia operative. the president is tweeting this morning that this investigation was started for no reason and with no proof and the fbi tried to, quote, do a number on him. reconcile the president's framing of this with the threshold that an investigation like this of the president of the united states, no less, would have to cross. >> a lot. the fbi, the last thing it wants to do is investigate a new president. in order to open that investigation, it had to have solid proof.
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counterintelligence investigations like this are very serious and they have to have something very substantial to open this, and they did with trump. let's not forget his relations with the kgb go back to '87 when he goes to moscow, a visit sponsored by the kgb. you have to put that in context. all of the russian money, a lot of kgb money going into trump properties. the fbi had more than enough reason to go in and investigate this guy, and it is not because of comey, it is because of agents on the ground that know what they're doing. >> samantha, the president also weighing in, saying i was far tougher on russia than obama, bush or clinton. getting along with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. i fully expect someday we'll have good relations with russia again. a tweet from a couple hours ago. your thoughts? >> the president's tweet making the case he is not a russian asset undercuts his own defense.
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the president's tweet couldn't have been scripted better if written by putin himself. someone has to have told him that undercutting the fbi, insulting past presidents and members of the u.s. government and criticizing their actions to keep us safe is advancing russia's mission. our own intelligence community has said that those very things are exactly what russia is after, so in the president's response he's making russia's job easier while at the same time really showing that he's going to continue to undercut our law enforcement community, and the question is why. is he trying to obstruct justice and thwart an investigation that may still be on-going or is he just so manipulated by russia that he can't see past his own ego to let the law enforcement community protect us? >> doing more, steven, of what in part got to the investigation, slamming law
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enforcement and saying nice things, trying to get closer and closer to russia. let me talk about what popped through my head this morning, often when we get new revelations, is that the house intelligence committee when it was under the control of devon nunez closed an investigation into potential collusion. again, this investigation we're talking about with robert mueller is not completed, we don't know if the president was actually working with or for or if there was collusion. but that closed so quickly with saying there was no evidence potentially of anything happening, and now we continue to get the drip, drip, drip out of the fbi investigation. what's this mean for capitol hill now that we're seeing democrats take control of the committee? >> i think it gives added impetus to the democratic oversight and investigative operation that's beginning to ratchet up. adam schiff who will be the new chairman of the intelligence committee since the democrats
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took over the house has raised questions in the past about the president's relationship with russia. i mean, i think we have to take a little step back. when this headline, "new york times" headline flashed on your phone, it is a surreal moment that the fbi would open investigation into the president of the united states to see if he was acting on the interests of russia. but if you think about it, it is a question that's been at the center of the russia investigation all along, and sarah sanders, the white house press secretary put out a statement saying as you said that trump administration policy towards russia has been quite a tough one. all along there's been this other policy towards russia pursued by the president. we saw it in the helsinki summit, we saw it last week when he was talking about the soviet
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invasion of afghanistan in 1979 where he appeared to take the russian view. there's been a long mystery as to why donald trump often takes the interests of russia as his starting point rather than the point of view of his own intelligence agencies and u.s. foreign policy. that doesn't mean that he's acting as an agent of russia, it could be just his world view, but it is a real curiosity that's been the center of this presidency and his relationship with russia since the start. >> and curiosity as well when you look at the people around him between manafort, papadopoulos, flynn, people that have shown they have connections to russia. i heard one analyst earlier this week say what else was he going to do in terms of getting somebody on his team, he couldn't get people on his campaign team. these are the people you can get. is he, bob barr et, do you get a sense guilty by association or is there something more to the
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connections that all go back to president trump? >> well, the russian fingerprint is all over his campaign, especially paul manafort who was in kiev working with two russian intelligence officers, staff officers. paul manafort takes polling data, gives it essentially to russian intelligence. if you're in the fbi or cia, would be a strong presumption that trump is under some sort of control of russia. everything he has done since does not detract from that, that's when you would open an investigation and keep it open. and by the way, the fbi investigation is still looking into his connections with russian intelligence. they haven't made a conclusion but are trying to collect evidence. >> samantha, stephen talked about when you get the alert, especially the headline and the way it was written, that the president was being investigated to see if he was working on behalf of russians against america's interests.
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that's a jaw dropping moment. considering all those known publicly, there's a line in this story that says that investigators aware of the evidence, not sitting on it and not investigating, would be abdication of duty. based on what is public, are you surprised the investigation is launched? >> i'm not surprised at all. we knew even before this "new york times" reporting that putin at least considers president trump an asset. we know that vladimir putin wanted president trump to be elected. he was putin's preferred candidate because putin thought he would be an asset to russia, he would be helpful to advancing policies that were beneficial to the russian state and not to the united states. so he has been an asset for russia for a long time. the question becomes whether president trump was being manipulated by russian intelligence, whether knowingly or unwittingly, to serve russian interests. based upon how easy it is to get the president to respond to a
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tweet or a critical headline or to flattery, it seems not unlikely that vladimir putin, a trained kgb agent could easily manipulate the president of the united states. when you see tweets from the president like this morning denigrating the u.s. law enforcement community, rather than talk about attack by a foreign hostile power, it all seems to advance the idea that he is again being manipulated or used by russian intelligence. >> and stephen, last thoughts here, what about rod rosenstein now, he is set, he says, to leave. what does that mean for this whole investigation at the end of the day? >> well, he has been overseeing the mueller investigation from the start, given the fact that the former attorney general jeff sessions was recused, wasn't able to oversee it. i think he acted as a shield for the investigation. we're going to have confirmation hearings next week for a new
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attorney general, and this is going to play into the intensity of those confirmation hearings and it is going to be i think a real washington event in the next few days, and the russia investigation, even as we're in the middle of a government shutdown is going to take center stage yet again. it has been a shadow over donald trump's presidency from the start and he cannot escape it. it keeps coming back. i think that's going to be the case again here. >> all right. >> samantha vinograd, stephen collins, bob bared, thank you. from the white house, cnn reporter sarah westwood. we read some tweets from the president, and hearing from press secretary sarah sanders. >> reporter: that's right, christi. president trump and the white house are slamming the fbi in the wake of reports that counterintelligence agents were looking in why trump did things
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that seem to benefit trump when he fired fbi director james comey, and when robert mueller was appointed special counsel. as you know, that counterintelligence probe was an aspect of the obstruction inquiry that was folded into mueller's broader investigation of russian meddling in 2016, so it is unclear how long that counterintelligence probe went on. nonetheless, the white house is responding forcefully to news of its existence, sarah sanders saying this is absurd. james comey was fired because he is a disgraced partisan hack and his deputy, andrew mccabe in charge at the time was a known liar fired by the fbi, unlike president obama who let russia and other adversaries push us around, president trump habitually tough on russia. he is claiming they opened the counterintelligence inquiry with
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no proof, calling them corrupt, and the tone toward russia, tweeting i have been far tougher on russia than obama, bush or clinton. maybe tougher than any other president. at the same time and as i have often said, getting along with russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. i fully expect someday we'll have good relations with russia again. the latest revelation comes as the white house legal team is bracing for the release of the mueller report potentially soon. sources say the white house legal team is staffing up in anticipation of the release of the report, adding 17 new lawyers ahead of what could be dramatic conclusion to the russia intrigue in the next few months, christi. >> sarah westwood, always good to have you. thank you. coming up, new details in the case of jayme klaas. hear more from neighbors on how they found her. >> i got close to her, she
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this is where the suspect is being held until his court hearing on monday. about 60 miles away, that's the distance she was abducted allegedly by the suspect, is the crime scene processing continuing of the home where she was allegedly held. last night, 30 to 40 local, state, federal law enforcement officials were executing a search warrant. that will continue today. for any prosecution, it is important time period to collect the evidence and collect so it is good evidence that can be presented at a trial. this all started thursday afternoon, about 4:30. and it was the very icy cold, snowy area of douglas county where a neighbor was walking a dog and sees a young woman come out of the forest area. she has shoes too big for her
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feet, the young woman walked up to her, she said she instantly recognized her because of the posters around. listen to what she had to say once they went to the neighbor's house and 911 was called. >> absolutely knew it was her. we've seen her picture a million times around here. she looked exactly the same as she did in her picture, a little thinner i would say, and then she looked really tired, like she has been fighting a battle for weeks. >> reporter: it was that neighbor there that asked her who have you been with, what type of vehicle does he have, and she actually communicated that to the 911 operator at the same time they were coming to get jayme, the suspect was pulled over about ten minutes later. victor, christi, this community has cared so much, they have believed she was alive, didn't want to give up, posters have
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been everywhere. i stopped at a store yesterday on the way in, i said to the clerk, it is amazing she's alive, and found. the store clerk didn't know yet and she got so emotional hearing the news from me, i mean, i thought she would know, and she started to cry. she was so overjoyed. when they say this community is emotional for everything, that's exactly the case. also heard one other thing from the sheriff this morning that i think is very interesting, that jayme lived allegedly with this abductor in captivity about two houses down from where she came out through the forested area. i was happy to hear that from the sheriff because she didn't have to walk too far before that neighbor with the dog found her. and i think in this weather, that's critically important issue. >> you know what, this goes to show, we cannot give up on people that are missing.
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jean casarez, thank you so much. also getting more following jayme's escape. the woman that found her spoke with cnn and described the moment jayme approached her while she was walking her dog. >> i had walked my dog about a mile and a half, the area where our cabin is and where jayme was is like a loop. so i just finished the walk with henry, i was at the end of my driveway, and i saw a young woman coming towards me, saying i'm lost, i don't know where i am, and i need help. so i went toward her. the roads are very icy. i knew right away when i first encountered her she was in trouble because she wasn't dressed for the weather, it was very cold here. she just had on some leggings and a sweatshirt and shoes that were not hers, so i knew wherever she had come from, she
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left in a hurry, and when i got close to her, she leaned into me and said that i'm jayme and i knew right away who it was because if you live in wisconsin, you've seen so many pictures of jayme. i just walked quietly with jayme, told her everything was going to be all right, i kept saying to myself just be calm. you don't need her to get upset or excited. i didn't ask her any questions about anything except i wanted to know if the person she has been with, was he gone, was he in a car or whatever, and she said yes, he was gone in a car. i said what color is this car because i wanted to be aware if i saw a car of that color coming toward us. >> so smart. they haven't said what was the
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the fbi counterintelligence probe was prompted by the firing of former fbi director james comey. may 9th, 2017. >> today marks the longest shutdown of the federal government in history. talking about more than 800,000 federal employees who do not have a paycheck now nor is there one in sight. and we're hearing all of these stories of people selling things that are very valuable to them, their cars, momentos, books, whatever it takes so they can pay their bills. cnn national correspondent dianne gallagher with us, she sat down with one tsa worker that didn't get paid yesterday. that had to be a jolt to get a paycheck and see a zero. >> most people don't look at the paychecks, it shows up in their bank account. you notice when the bank account is light an entire paycheck. more than half of the 800,000 workers are still going to work every single day and not getting paid, including those at the tsa.
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i went to little rock, arkansas yesterday and i spoke with a woman with the tsa 13 years, one of many veteran officers there. she's six months pregnant and unsure what exactly she's going to do. unlike others, she can't just call out sick to get other odd jobs to do, driving uber, some are doing odd jobs, painting, things like that to supplement their income because she's got to be there at work. she can't give up the insurance. she already had complications in her pregnancy, and now stress of not getting the paycheck and she says not knowing when it will come. 13 years with the tsa, she has been through shutdowns before. what's most unnerving about this one, in her view, nobody has moved, and she doesn't see an end in sight. we're seeing ramifications of this in miami where today, tomorrow, monday, you're going to see one of the concourses
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close early because of tsa agents calling out sick. >> thank you so much for bringing you that story. that's something i don't think we thought about was the insurance aspect of this. thank you. when during the campaign i would say mexico is going to pay for it, obviously i never said this and i never meant they're going to write out a check, i said they're going to pay for it. >> that was president trump thursday, insisting he never said that mexico would make a direct payment for the wall and obviously never said mexico would just hand over billions. did he? >> who is going to pay for the wall? and by the way, by the way, 100%. you know, the politicians say they'll never pay. 100%. >> they're not going to write us a check. >> they'll pay in one form or another. they may even write us a check.
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>> that direct payment plan was more than an offhand response during a campaign rally, it was his official strategy. this didn't get a lot of attention in the campaign, but 22 days into the government shutdown, we need to revisit it. it is a two-page memo first published by "the washington post" dated march 31st, 2016. it was sent to robert costa and bob bob woodward ward from donald j. trump on campaign letterhead. the subject, compelling mexico to pay for the wall. it is then candidate trump's three day plan to force mexico to, quote, make a one time payment of 5 to $10 billion to pay for the wall. that's back when trump claimed it would be built for $10 billion. estimates are roughly double that now. according to the memo, on day one, trump said the u.s. would suggest redefining it and invoking part of the patriot act to take a portion of money that workers send to mexico and block all payments sent to mexico by
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workers in the u.s. illegally. it is not clear if the president can really do that. day two of the plan, mexico would immediately protest, the president wrote, because so many people rely on those remittances as they're known. now it is day three of the plan. the u.s. would tell mexico if the mexican government will contribute blank billion dollars to pay for the wall, the regulation will not go into effect. simple. day one, day two, day three. it is day 27 for the trump administration and it hasn't happened yet. in a memo to the post, trump threatened cancelling visas or small increase in visa fees or enact new tariffs. trump says the u.s. has the high moral ground here and all the leverage, and it is an easy decision for mexico, he wrote. the president has not executed his plan. and mexico has said emphatically that it is not going to pay for the wall.
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the president is demanding that you, the taxpayer, you pay for it instead, while simultaneously claiming this. >> they are paying for it with the incredible deal we made called the united states mexico and canada, usmca deal. >> the usmca deal, that's the trade agreement the president hopes will replace nafta. he and justin trudeau signed this deal in november. i said hopes because that's not law. congress hasn't ratified that. with democrats running the show in the house, there's no guarantee it will. any direct benefits of the deal will be reaped by individuals, not the u.s. government, and the white house argues that yes, more money for american companies means more tax revenue, sure. you but it would be merely impossible to track which dollars are a direct result of
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the new trade deal, and it is up to congress to allocate that money at the end of the day and you see how that's working out now. bottom line, when the president claims he said mexico wouldn't make a direct payment for the wall, write a check, he didn't just say it, he wrote it down in detail. he says the new trade deal will pay for the wall? it won't. >> thank you, victor. he is a rising star in the democratic party with a uniquely immigrant back story. julian castro is planning to announce he is running for president. process energy differently. at royal canin, we developed over 200 precise formulas to transform every cat and dog into a magnificent animal. royal canin
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announce his presidential aspirations here in san antonio. he would be the first latin the race and one of the first to run. he is going to leverage his unique uniquely immigrant story to repud ate president trump and his wall that he wants to build on the border. possibly more than any other candidate considering getting into the 2020 race, his rise has been tied to that story, to the fact his grandmother immigrated to the united states from mexico in 1922. he was raised here where i am standing on the west side of san antonio. he was baptized at a church nearby, went to middle school nearby, his childhood home is nearby. what he is trying to do is center the race on his family story, on his rise from frankly a situation that not many presidential candidates come from to where he is now. he acknowledged and acknowledged to me before that he is a long shot in the race. he is looking up at a number of
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other democrats. fund-raising would clearly be an issue for him and name idea. he is going to try to change that, but as he told me he has been a long shot his whole life and it doesn't scare him now that he's announcing a run for president. >> good to know. thank you very much. a d.c. democratic party chairman and former chair of the national bar association, brian robinson. scott, let's start after secretary castro, he is going to announce he is running for president. has a good personal story, narrative. what do you think his chances are? >> takes more than that with so many potential democratic candidates for 2020. a great story. great following. but you have to have three things in this packed primary, message, money, and be able to mobilize voters. message won't be that bad for
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him. he has a great message, a great story, but can he raise the money. every day more candidates are getting in. there's only so much money on the democratic side and it will be difficult to compete. remember, big named democrats aren't even in yet. >> and some money might be sitting on the side waiting for them to get in. the president has been tweeting in response to this major report from "new york times" that the fbi, and we have the headline there, investigated him for potentially working on behalf of russia against u.s. interests. the president tweeted this investigation was started for no reason and with no proof. regardless of the outcome, innocent until proven guilty, obviously. do you believe this was started for no reason and with no proof? >> well, let's remember that this is a year and a half ago. this is breaking news that is 18 months old now. as rudy giuliani pointed out, there's been no leaking coming out about the issue. we've had no new news on anything they found, and also
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what sarah sanders said yesterday in response to headlines, should be the second line in every one of these stories that during the trump presidency, he has been much tougher on russia than his predecessor, president obama. he has been tougher on fighting in ukraine, on sanctions, going after putin's cronies. the idea that he is helping russia? he's doing a bad job of it. >> this morning he started the line with it would be great to have a better relationship with russia. you said sarah sanders's response, i thought you were talking about comey when the president said -- >> look, his record on russia is what matters. this is a year and a half old story that people are finding out about now. >> even part of the record where he stood next to him in helsinki and said i believe vladimir putin over my own intelligence? >> you're standing there on that stage. look, trump respects president putin a way that makes a lot of
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americans uncomfortable. >> reagan wouldn't have done that, neither bush would have done that. >> obama wouldn't have done that. >> he didn't spring this on us in helsinki. he was clear he respects putin and wants to have a better relationship with him. you don't do that standing there side by side and saying this guy is a criminal and liar. that's not what you do in diplomacy. >> unless that's what he is. >> in 2016, we know during the campaign he was trying to do a business deal in russia. we also know that during the same period of time which the fbi started to investigate, remember, the fbi started investigating context and connections under brennan. then he goes to the white house, he has the russians there. what he does, he said i fired comey because he is crazy and the russian investigation. he does it on national tv. and then later on national tv during another interview. that's more than enough. i am a former prosecutor from new york. that's more than enough for the
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fbi and the doj to start investigating. couple that with comey's firing, then look at trump's public statements during the campaign, that's more than enough to investigate to say wait a minute, who do we have in the white house? do we have a russian agent in the white house or not, whether it goes somewhere or not is a whole other thing. trump drove this narrative, and we have heard it before. he was accused by it that perhaps he would wear a wire during the investigation. the fbi and doj represent the united states of america, not this president, and that president, any president, could be investigated when you make statements that have evidence like that. >> let me turn to the shutdown. the president is tweeting about democrats, why have you gone home. i'm sitting here in the white house. did they pay him a rhetorical or optic victory or advantage here by not staying in washington? >> no, their office, the way he
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is stewing in his office like a seven-year-old. he walked himself into this box. >> democrats have held sit-ins on the house floor in the past. that was obviously -- >> the democrats have done everything they can to open up the government. they passed legislation. they said you're not getting the wall. if you keep negotiating with me and keep telling me i want a wall and i tell you it is off the table, that's not good negotiation, that's being hard headed. >> saying the wall is immoral is hard headed and unable to compromise. last week we had an address to the nation by president trump. he was the only person that night that said the word compromise. chuck and nancy went on in the world's most awkward news conference of all time, never used that. they said the wall is immoral and use that language, what ability does that leave you to negotiate? only trump is talking compromise. >> you can say compromise, but he's not.
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he is holding the $5.7 billion. democrats aren't compromising either. >> he offered 1.3 billion on border security. >> it makes no sense. the wall won't stop drugs or crime or terrorism. independent empirical data supports what the democrats are saying. >> the wall is the only point of contention. unless you compromise on a wall, whether the president or democrats, then that's the point on which people need to compromise. saying it means nothing, let me ask you this, we have to wrap. do i have extra time? let me ask you this. he used every tool in the box, the rose garden speech, the press conference, the tour, the oval office address. what's left? >> i think what we're going to see, victor, who has the highest tolerance for the pain that the shutdown is going to inflict. and i think it may be trump. the democratic base will be more hostile to the shutdown than the republican base. one thing trump has going for
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former television host megyn kelly will receive all the money from her $69 million contract
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with nbc. she and nbc parted ways yesterday. that departure put in motion when kelly was taken off the air in the fall when she defended halloween costumes that incorporate blackface in a segment on the talk show. i want to bring in oliver darcy. oliver, any indication where she might be going? >> reporter: well, let's wrap it up and bring viewers back. these negotiations for megyn kelly's exit started last fall when she made the controversial blackface comments. so they have been going on quite some time. there were a couple of things at stake here. first, the money. how much money was she going to walk away with. she was halfway through a $69 million contract like you said, so money was a big question. the second thing was, what was she able to say about her experience after she left the network. she will walk away with what was left of her contract.
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she's subject to a standard industry nondisparagement clause. i wouldn't expect to see her on television talking about her experience at nbc or with executives, at least in a disparaging way. that said to your question, she was confronted this week on the streets, a group of celebrity photographers asked her will we see you back on tv, what's next. she did say they would see her back on tv sometime this year. it is unclear what she meant by that. i talked to one of her representatives yesterday, there was no more information or details. she did say that was going to happen, and it is noteworthy, she is not subject to a noncompete. so in theory, she could be back on tv sometime this year. she says she's going to be, but there are really no details about that, and it is hard to see where she would go. >> oliver darcy, thank you so much. appreciate it. we'll be right back. our dad was. because of smoking. but we still had to have a cigarette. had to. but then, we were like.
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